Comments on: Why Eve online sucks donkeys

By: Lenny

Lenny — Mon, 14 May 2012 09:21:54 +0000

Ive played EVE for 4 years, and its tanking. I just like coming home and doing my own thing, I dont need a second job. Which is what Eve has always felt like. Ive delved deep into the layers of complexity thinking there was a way to actually make the game currency, or derive some kind of satisfaction, but the answer is NO. The Deeper you dig you will find there is no end to the complex BS, and it never becomes fruitful. As far as suicide Gankers go, they are more prevalent now and the fact they can fit a cheap throw away ship with cheap guns and kill a ship that took months to be able to afford, makes it even crappier….and there is no penalty the security status thing is a joke. The penalty is they withhold boring missions that no one wants to do anyway.
Ive lost 29 ships many were very expensive, all in high security space. Ive never Killed anyone nor do I ever want to kill anyone…..I just want to live in space and do my own thing, alone or with friends. Ive actually petitioned CCP and explained why Im getting tired of this game, and offered some solutions. I was referred to a extinct blog and told that “they (the guy at CCP) didnt mind suicide ganking.” Which is fine but they can do it without me paying for the honor.

By: fnord

fnord — Tue, 08 May 2012 18:05:30 +0000

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By: poorsucker

poorsucker — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:06:40 +0000

Wish I saw this sooner. It is 11pm Sunday. After 2.5 days straight I hate this game more than backyard monsters and Zork. I am sortof depressed now and for the first time in years I think this is the end of gaming. It might be cold out but I’m going for a walk. Tomorrow too. Come be rude to my face outside. Eve is just awful. A good old boys club from hell.

By: Pnubs

Pnubs — Mon, 30 Apr 2012 00:02:21 +0000

I’ve played EVE Online for over a year. I’ve been in a few corps and one big null-sec Alliance. Here’s what you need to know about EVE if you are considering playing it.
1. Don’t. Really. Don’t do it. It’s not a fun GAME. It is a fun environment for some personality types to have a sense of camaraderie with other people who share similar personality types in the midst of a virtual “sandbox” that closely resembles an American high school.
2. There are cliques (corps) and even bigger cliques (Alliances) based on different interests and just like in high school the jocks (pirates and gankers) beat up the geeks (industrialists, miners, etc.) The only way to avoid all of this nonsense is to be a mission runner in an NPC corp (one of the one’s you start off with). The problem is this part of the game is boring, because the game is designed to be social.
3. The main problem you will encounter with EVE is that because it is a “sandbox” the activities that you are able to engage in are influenced and in many cases dictated by other players. Some think that this is the best thing about the game. It’s not. Even if you are in a corp or in an alliance, because of the constant threat of “SPAIS!” (intercorp/alliance espionage) nobody trusts anyone, which makes developing the sort of social relationships that make a social sandbox game interesting and fun very difficult to do. So you have cliques inside the corps and cliques inside the alliances and they all crap on each other. The reason CCP emphasizes the big nullsec fleet battles (which aren’t really all that impressive to be a part of, they are long, slow, laggy, and generally have some drunk prick pretending to play Risk as Fleet Commander) is that they make good press and create the “promise” of EVE that nobody ever gets to. What ends up happening is they log in to chat with their mates and make each other feel like superior human beings by all of the griefing and scamming.

By: JohnR

JohnR — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:11:29 +0000

Against my better judgement and the things I said in my previous post I tried EVE anyway, and OMG! It was the most painful four hours of gaming I’ve ever experienced! Possibly the worst UI ever, an extremely confusing tutorial, and as Windowsnerd noted, probably the most rude, condescending, and unhelpful player community I’ve ever seen. Also, I was barely in my ship five minutes when I got hit up by someone trying to talk me in to some kind of recruiting scam. As a lesser complaint, I found it odd that they give you a lot of options for customizing your player character, but yet all anyone ever sees is a small postage stamp pic of you. What’s up with that? Oh, and before I forget, the game had a very annoying music score as well. Anyway, by the time I gave up I was feeling nauseous and ill, with the worst migraine headache I’ve had in years. Needless to say, all the negative things people have said about Eve here and in other web forums were definitely born out by brief my experience with the game.

By: JohnR

JohnR — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:27:50 +0000

Glad I found this thread. I was on the point of trying Eve but now think I’m going to pass on it. For one thing I did see some posts here from a few pro-Eve players that did strike me as being snobbish, elitist, and condescending. Most importantly though, I’d already heard disquieting rumors about Eve encouraging sociopathic behavior, veteran players preying on noobs, and corruption within CCP, and these things were corroborated by many posts in this thread. In fact one person on another forum wrote that new players who write favorably of the game have most likely not yet had their heads handed to them by some mean-spirited veteran.

It’s a pity though. I’m an MMO noob, but my initial euphoria with the genre has definitely soured. I loved SWTOR early on, but after three weeks got bored with the grind and quit. I’ve now been playing Star Trek Online and although it has much to recommend it (especially the fun ship combat), you reach your max level rather quickly and there’s no meaningful end-game goal, so will probably tire of it soon as well. From the research I’ve done though, I think I’d be better off passing on Eve and going back to the safer ;o) world of single player games when Sid Meier’s ‘Gods and Kings’ Civ5 update comes out it June.

By: Seedy

Seedy — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 22:42:54 +0000

EVE isn’t a ‘sandpit’, it’s a litterbox.

It’s important in that it attracts the very lowest, most sociopathic filth and gives them a place to crawl out from under their rocks and be vile. It keeps them away from the other MMOs and makes sure they do as little damage elsewhere as is possible.

I hope it stays around for that reason, I really do.

By: Uday Hussein

Uday Hussein — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 01:24:15 +0000

Totally agree. This game SUCKS! It is soo complicated. And by complicated, I don’t mean intellectually challenging – I mean unnecessarily cluttered, redundant interfaces, confusing menus, and poor game design. Recompiling my Linux kernel by hand is easier and more fun. I am pretty sure they do this intentionally to milk you out of money; having you spend hours figuring out how to use the game instead of playing. Good strategy when there isn’t much content. It is just painful to play. If you enjoy this game you really have social problems. Pretty eye candy and that’s about it.

By: HotSix

HotSix — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 05:58:32 +0000

I’m playing EVE Online for 6 months now just to notice that EVE Online is dying – makes no sense for a new player to start playing it at all. Let me explain why…
I’ve started playing EVE because of its open PvP and the skill training idea (you can learn them while you are offline). I like rough MMOs (played Lineage 1 for 10 years – that’s an asian grinder with even harsher death penalties than in EVE btw). EVE is not PvP – is a gankfest at best. In EVE you can gank noobs without any penalty all day long. The only “penalty” you have to face is that you can’t move into high secure areas but that doesn’t matter at all because there is nothing you want – the good, profitable and fun areas are all in low security areas – only noobs have to stay in high-sec. Low sec is owned by long time corps – want to join one of those? HAHA! Get 5 million skill points first (that’s a good year of skill training ^^). Basically you can’t do anything in high-sec (bad mission rewards, bad mining, no planetary mining, etc.)
Groups of gankers camping most important gates 24 hours per day – you warp in – 1 sec later your ship and you are dust – and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
EVE Online is focused on players who already play it for some years and those get less and less – so by time when you finally have your required skills, it’s most likely that you’ll float around in empty space. If CCP doesn’t change the game then it’s only a matter of 1-2 years before EVE Online will be dead.
If you have nothing else to do and like being cannon fodder then you may consider playing EVE otherwise you are better off with putting your finger into your nose digging for some more valuable stuff than you may find in EVE’s high-sec ^^

By: recycled meme

recycled meme — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 14:15:22 +0000

It’s the latter, no doubt. Most of the attitude from the players come from the fact that they are well off and bored. They don’t actually need to make isk because they can drop anywhere from a couple hundred to a couple thousand bucks a month buying whatever they need. This was shown in those client lists that were hacked and posted over the summer from a well known RMT site. So basically if you engage in isk making activites, you’re clearly poor and aren’t fit to play their game since you can’t/aren’t doing it their way. That’s the real reason behind them waging war on “carebears”.

They’ll call you that, coward, pubbie or anything else that they think will encite rage and/or tears but class warfare is what it boils down to. It doesn’t matter if you’re actually poor or not, that’s just how they see view you. It’s a game created by a bunch of elitist drunken nerds with victim complexes for elitist drunken nerds with victim complexes. Watch a few fanfest videos where they interview some of these guys from the big alliances, like the douchebag from dirtnap squad, I see one of their ilk turd poasted here. Also see the HTFU video for references to CCP’s attitude.

Sure it was edgy and funny at the time but it wore off and the big picture came into view. Well that and the fact the CCP got caught doing favors for these guys and not just once. So having said all that, it’s no wonder player retention is so low and that’s just the way they, and apparently CCP, like it. It gives them that strange sense of superiority because only badasses can cut it in EVE. Maybe someday these guys will make peace with themselves and forgive the bullies and the hot cheerleader for mocking them in highschool. I doubt it.