Why Eve online sucks donkeys
Eve really sucks. It looks ok, I wouldn’t say the graphics are better or as impressive as standing in the middle of Dalaran in WoW. There were a few things that caught my attention right away:
1. There is a chat channel for newbies. Clear sign the game isn’t very self explanatory. Big red flag. That chat channel is a steady flood of confused, lost and bewildered new people. BIG red flag.
2. Rude people in chat. Very condescending comments to newbs about reading directions and only intellectuals are capable of playing Eve online. If you don’t get it, apparently you are stupid.
3. The directions you are provided with don’t make much sense. It gives me some blueprint to build some afterburner thing. At first I thought I was going to make the part myself. After some reading using the ingame browser (very cool) people said I should just buy it. Even though I had a bunch of extra mining stuff I had just sold, I didn’t have enough to buy the parts for my quest. According to my training schedule, it was going to be 4 hours until my prereq skill was done cooking. I can’t build it without some manufacturing skill that gets done about 2 hours from now. So I’m stuck. Can’t build it, can’t buy it.
Why on earth would they make me wait 4 hours to complete my 3rd quest? Unbelievable. So I asked in the chat. I got bitched out and cursed at for being stupid and making the game less fun because I’m obviously trolling the chat to piss people off??? Very odd.I wonder if Eve put the newbie channel there just to deter new users. One more hurdle to keep the new people out, by constant ridicule.
4. The interface starts off too cluttered. That sure is nice that you can do all this amazing stuff later in the game. Eve needs to learn from WoW and start with a bunch of the buttons missing. Focus players on core skills that must be complete in order to get past say level 10.
5. mouse look. I looked around for a while in the menu, couldn’t figure out mouselook inversion options.
6. The ingame browser is really cool because you don’t have to tab out or stay in windowed mode. The idea behind it though bites. The game sucks so bad that you have to be able to google how to play it every other minute. Eve online doesn’t feel like a game. It is more like a writing a research paper.
After 3 hours of wandering around, reading too much online and in game, and getting blasted by other users for asking polite questions I gave up. I got in to general chat and said I didn’t think this game is for me, I hope you all have fun with it, I’m going back to WoW. I got a few “fuck yous” right away and then logged out and uninstalled.
Eve online is a game for people who can only see black and white. For the few percent of the world that sees only in black and white it is great. But for the rest of us who see in color, the game makes as much sense as a newspaper that has been through a crosscut shredder. I would have quit after about an hour, but decided I better give it a chance. I will never get that 3-4 hours back. what a waste.
So now the count is World of Warcraft 2, Eve online 0, WW2 online 0. Evony still undecided.
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Comments
Comment from KF34
Time: March 18, 2010, 1:44 pm
A friend of mine asked me to play the game, he offered me 100 million in EVE currency in return I subscribe for the game using his invite, that way he gets 1 month free. So far Ive played about 2 months worth, here is my thoughts on the game. This is pretty much why I didn’t purchase another subscription.
Something I did not like about eve online was real-time skill training, even with implants and full learning skills, you have to wait sometimes days for a skill to complete training, basically I paid just to wait for my skills to finish training, within this time frame there isn’t really much you can do worth while until it completes.
Also another thing that I did not like was suicide ganking, basically in eve online there are system security levels, high security levels are areas where if someone attacks you a “guard” called Concord will come and blow up their ship, but players are now scanning people for their cargo, looking for any valuable item, they then take a cheap ship, insure it and kill you and then their friends come in and steal your stuff.
In regards to eve onlines player community, some of the nicest players are the miners, but this game is infested with griefers, 9 times out of 10 youll meet a real jerk, its nothing like the community here on wow. Also the main thing I did not like about this game was sanctioned purchase of ISK (currency) with real money. Basically in this game, if you have real money you can buy as much ISK (currency) you like, legally, meaning you wont get banned for it.
This game could have been so good if they tweaked it a little, but they decided to cater to griefers. Oh well, back to playing WoW. Im telling, if Blizzard got in control of eve online, it would become one of the best games out there. Thats why im hoping their next MMO is scifi based.
Comment from Opho
Time: April 5, 2010, 10:33 am
Eve-online is difficult because it is about sorting through superfluous layers of complexity that serve as its fantasy of a space ship society. Actually the game is simple and is about moving resources between boxes for processing to market. There are no griefers. Stealing from, protecting from, and setting back, others – is the game. The interest of the game is accomplishing how to survive/compete in anarchy, and you quickly discover, that this requires competition of groups. As in nature, survival (selection) is a group selection game for social species. The larger, more powerful group wins over the smaller and groups join together to form larger groups and so on. There is ramifying detail in complexity to operate your apparatus in and with the group. The top predator group wins. Fun, huh?
Comment from Gavin
Time: April 12, 2010, 4:51 pm
Yeah Eve sucks, I completely agree with this blog entry, and everything Opho said is about a complete a lie as can be told. I played for 2 months and most of the time I played I was actually playing other games while waiting for my skills to finish training. I was wondering why I was dumping any money into my subscription. Then, finally, I got my skills, bought my new ship, and went to low sec to farm pirates. Yeah right, 3 players attacked me and killed me on sight and I lost everything.
Of course Eve apologists will say this game is for “the big boys/adults/intelligent players”. That’s what helps them sleep at night. But in the end, this game sucks, in 7 years it’s only accumulated half a million players, WoW had 11 million almost overnight. End of story.
I’m going out to get some sunshine now.
Comment from varus
Time: July 6, 2010, 10:04 am
EVE is good for bored ceo’s who missed a big transaction and are trying to rule the virtual space, or something. It is not suited for children. Therefore, it is not a game. If it were a game, then the children could play it.
Comment from iRF
Time: August 30, 2010, 7:44 pm
TL;DR
Guy dislikes EVE Online because he has the mental capacity of a child and doesn’t like taking time to earn. He likes games such as WoW in which you can become the top level in two days.
Comment from anon
Time: August 31, 2010, 7:56 pm
No idea why OP is comparing EVE to WoW. EVE is a sandbox, WoW is a scripted RPG. Themes are unrelated.
Next time you want to criticize a game, learn to separate it into its pros and cons.
EVE players do however tend to have a more “elitist” attitude and the stereotype for WoW players is “12 year olds kids” or people living in their parents’ basements. Ignoring that, EVE is obviously more complex at start where newcomers are thrown into space with a strange UI and a short tutorial that doesn’t cover everything.
It’s like GTA IV but Nico has to spend 10 months in real life to learn to pick a lock, drive a tank, and pilot a helicopter. If you spend the time in game, you eventually get to the point where you can commandeer vehicles whenever you want.
TL;DR : If you like one night stands, play WoW. If you like dinner, followed by strip poker, then foreplay, then a heated several hours of sex, play EVE.
Comment from Kev
Time: January 12, 2010, 11:23 pm
Wasn’t too much of a fan of Eve. If you prefer MMOs with nice game mechanics check out 2Moons (it is ranked as one of the best PVP experiences). There is a lot of crap coming out the korean MMO market because it so lucrative, but this is an exception.